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antiquecraftsays
Hi Nati, I really enjoyed the trailer.
I am also from Tsum valley, a village called Gok which lies before Chekangparo.
Its interesting since i always wanted to make a short documentary about tsum and i started self learning and doing apprenticeship right now.
And hopefully when you come to Nepal i would like to meet you.
kvn024says
oh my buddah i saw the Unmistaken Child!!
TomLeykisClipssays
This version of reincarnation is way too out there. POSSIBLY it’s understandable that one’s consciousness disperses after death and then PARTLY embeds into a newly forming conscience, but an ‘entire consciousness’ transplanting into a child?
EarlRDunbarsays
How holistic is it to completely dismiss a spiritual point of view/belief with which you simply disagree? How holistic is it to circumscribe beliefs as only that which is “rational”? Things that were irrational a century ago is are now completely common, not just rational?
BTW, I was trained in hard sciences (biology & chemistry), am now a network engineer, and am also a Zen Buddhist. I do not know a lot about reincarnation, but I don’t lash out at others who believe it.
Herooftimexsays
its youtube…fuck off and let the baby have his bottle
flockofseagulls87says
But I thought Bhuddists are emphatic about the anattman concept. My question is this, if Bhuddists deny a self ever existed in the first place, than how can a nonexistant self reincarnate?
SuperiorShoresays
“I thought” … there you go again! :)
Seriously, I don’t deny A SELF exists, and I don’t think Buddhism “believes” that. The self exists AND does not exist as we perceive it … the self you perceive this moment is illusory.
flockofseagulls87says
Several questions immediately spring to mind. (I hope you don’t mind if I ask). When a Bhuddist speaks of “self”, what does he mean? Ego, persona? Or does the self refer to all awareness and the totality of being? And how can an illusory self, (wether it’s existence being dependent on our perception or not) reincarnate? Does it only “appear” to be reborn? With no causal connection to any past life or lives? Or is there some kind of continuity?
crackyhosssays
Tom, when you say it like that, it makes it no more unbelievable than a guy living inside of a fish, or man walking on water. Don’t want to start a flame war over religion, but let’s try and keep things in perspective. This isn’t a movie made to convince you of reincarnation.
EarlRDunbarsays
Flockofseagulls: Sorry for the slow reply. I am honoured that you think I can reply … I am just a beginner, so I’m afraid any answer I may have is simply a novice and perhaps incorrect understanding.
The self, as I understand it, means the “true self”. In an unenlightened state our perception of our self is deluded; we think of the stream of thoughts ABOUT our self to actually BE our self, but it is not. And our self is never static or constant; it is always changing.
EarlRDunbarsays
Flockofseagulls: I’m afraid I cannot answer your second question completely.
Annkimdallassays
It is poweful emotional. How one can’t believe in reincarnation of the divine Lama.
My heart goes out to them. Nano Bhuddaya, Namodharmaya, Namosanghaya!
Ganescharsays
He has big bottle ;)
dharmaistasays
How can it be there is always a reencarnation in a boy? Why is never a girl for centuries and centuries? Now yoga meditations and practices has reach all people in society. Why the tibetan wise men makes reencarnate over and over in a man, why they never choose a woman?????? Why there is not tibetan nuns????
WierdAARsays
The actually are a lot a tibetian nuns. The are entire monostaryes devoted to female religous practice. That most of the reencarnations are boy, comes from the fact that most of the lamas (The old ones at any rate, hense those who die) are men.
dharmaistasays
So, because they are men, they reencarnate as men too? That doesnt make any sense. I thought it didnt matter the gender in reencarnation, just mainly the lesson one is supposed to have in that very lifetime.
WierdAARsays
You could say that since they were men, they would be more likly to reincarnate as men. But I don’t understand you’re point, there are a lot og women in buddhism, but of course a religion were there are most men, will tend to favor finding what they think is the reencarnated masters in male children.
statemindfulsays
Saw it 3 times and was moved each time.
goranvrcelsays
@dharmaista There are Tibetan nuns, there are reincarnations of girls. Even “Buddha” according to Buddhism was a woman in one of his previous lifes. The Dalai Lama’s sister was reincarnated as well.
goranvrcelsays
True, yet it is very obvious in the west. Look at Christianity. Even Jesus, according to the Gospels, came back to life after death, in human form, and not only as a spirit. Later he entered heaven. Buddhists believe in reincarnation, another life after death, and try to live according to the teachings. The same goes for many Christians. They await another life after death. The concept is almost the same, yet the labels differ. So westerners got a pretty good idea of what it is.
goranvrcelsays
Whether one believes in reincarnation or not, it does not matter. This movie is more than that, it’s about principle, honor, respect, love, and last but not least, tradition, and even self control. Most people yearn for something great, a greater power. Traditions vary, beliefs vary, but the yearning is the same. Yearning for that god. How you define that god is up to you or the culture you are in. People with these values lead a healthier life than those who pass judgments to feed their ego.
dymcosays
that guy is a stupid fuck
crackercookiessays
@statemindful I have a question about Unmistaken Child. I saw the movie without subtitles so I do not know if the child choosing the items on the table were all correct. What did they say? Did the kid choose the correct items? All of them?
EasternMerchantsays
I believe that life is like a ocean matter which flows, through every facet of the universe, it disperses and coalesces into a new life form when the season is anew. Whether good or bad is only relative, and that the next lifeform would be a intermixed with previous lives even in the plural sense.
3 people die>>>>becomes flowers in garden>>>>>some flowers die>>>>becomes single bird>>>>bird and a cat dies>>>>>becomes one child>>>> wherever life force flows will be it’s next life cycle.
EasternMerchantsays
I believe that life is like an ocean of matter which flows through every facet of the universe, it disperses and coalesces into a new life form. Whether good or bad is only relative, and that the next lifeform would be a intermixed with previous lives even in the plural sense.
3 people die>>>>becomes flowers in garden>>>>>some flowers die>>>>becomes single bird>>>>bird and a cat dies>>>>>becomes one child>>>> wherever life force flows will be it’s next life cycle.
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antiquecraft says
Hi Nati, I really enjoyed the trailer.
I am also from Tsum valley, a village called Gok which lies before Chekangparo.
Its interesting since i always wanted to make a short documentary about tsum and i started self learning and doing apprenticeship right now.
And hopefully when you come to Nepal i would like to meet you.
kvn024 says
oh my buddah i saw the Unmistaken Child!!
TomLeykisClips says
This version of reincarnation is way too out there. POSSIBLY it’s understandable that one’s consciousness disperses after death and then PARTLY embeds into a newly forming conscience, but an ‘entire consciousness’ transplanting into a child?
EarlRDunbar says
How holistic is it to completely dismiss a spiritual point of view/belief with which you simply disagree? How holistic is it to circumscribe beliefs as only that which is “rational”? Things that were irrational a century ago is are now completely common, not just rational?
BTW, I was trained in hard sciences (biology & chemistry), am now a network engineer, and am also a Zen Buddhist. I do not know a lot about reincarnation, but I don’t lash out at others who believe it.
Herooftimex says
its youtube…fuck off and let the baby have his bottle
flockofseagulls87 says
But I thought Bhuddists are emphatic about the anattman concept. My question is this, if Bhuddists deny a self ever existed in the first place, than how can a nonexistant self reincarnate?
SuperiorShore says
“I thought” … there you go again! :)
Seriously, I don’t deny A SELF exists, and I don’t think Buddhism “believes” that. The self exists AND does not exist as we perceive it … the self you perceive this moment is illusory.
flockofseagulls87 says
Several questions immediately spring to mind. (I hope you don’t mind if I ask). When a Bhuddist speaks of “self”, what does he mean? Ego, persona? Or does the self refer to all awareness and the totality of being? And how can an illusory self, (wether it’s existence being dependent on our perception or not) reincarnate? Does it only “appear” to be reborn? With no causal connection to any past life or lives? Or is there some kind of continuity?
crackyhoss says
Tom, when you say it like that, it makes it no more unbelievable than a guy living inside of a fish, or man walking on water. Don’t want to start a flame war over religion, but let’s try and keep things in perspective. This isn’t a movie made to convince you of reincarnation.
EarlRDunbar says
Flockofseagulls: Sorry for the slow reply. I am honoured that you think I can reply … I am just a beginner, so I’m afraid any answer I may have is simply a novice and perhaps incorrect understanding.
The self, as I understand it, means the “true self”. In an unenlightened state our perception of our self is deluded; we think of the stream of thoughts ABOUT our self to actually BE our self, but it is not. And our self is never static or constant; it is always changing.
EarlRDunbar says
Flockofseagulls: I’m afraid I cannot answer your second question completely.
Annkimdallas says
It is poweful emotional. How one can’t believe in reincarnation of the divine Lama.
My heart goes out to them. Nano Bhuddaya, Namodharmaya, Namosanghaya!
Ganeschar says
He has big bottle ;)
dharmaista says
How can it be there is always a reencarnation in a boy? Why is never a girl for centuries and centuries? Now yoga meditations and practices has reach all people in society. Why the tibetan wise men makes reencarnate over and over in a man, why they never choose a woman?????? Why there is not tibetan nuns????
WierdAAR says
The actually are a lot a tibetian nuns. The are entire monostaryes devoted to female religous practice. That most of the reencarnations are boy, comes from the fact that most of the lamas (The old ones at any rate, hense those who die) are men.
dharmaista says
So, because they are men, they reencarnate as men too? That doesnt make any sense. I thought it didnt matter the gender in reencarnation, just mainly the lesson one is supposed to have in that very lifetime.
WierdAAR says
You could say that since they were men, they would be more likly to reincarnate as men. But I don’t understand you’re point, there are a lot og women in buddhism, but of course a religion were there are most men, will tend to favor finding what they think is the reencarnated masters in male children.
statemindful says
Saw it 3 times and was moved each time.
goranvrcel says
@dharmaista There are Tibetan nuns, there are reincarnations of girls. Even “Buddha” according to Buddhism was a woman in one of his previous lifes. The Dalai Lama’s sister was reincarnated as well.
goranvrcel says
True, yet it is very obvious in the west. Look at Christianity. Even Jesus, according to the Gospels, came back to life after death, in human form, and not only as a spirit. Later he entered heaven. Buddhists believe in reincarnation, another life after death, and try to live according to the teachings. The same goes for many Christians. They await another life after death. The concept is almost the same, yet the labels differ. So westerners got a pretty good idea of what it is.
goranvrcel says
Whether one believes in reincarnation or not, it does not matter. This movie is more than that, it’s about principle, honor, respect, love, and last but not least, tradition, and even self control. Most people yearn for something great, a greater power. Traditions vary, beliefs vary, but the yearning is the same. Yearning for that god. How you define that god is up to you or the culture you are in. People with these values lead a healthier life than those who pass judgments to feed their ego.
dymco says
that guy is a stupid fuck
crackercookies says
@statemindful I have a question about Unmistaken Child. I saw the movie without subtitles so I do not know if the child choosing the items on the table were all correct. What did they say? Did the kid choose the correct items? All of them?
EasternMerchant says
I believe that life is like a ocean matter which flows, through every facet of the universe, it disperses and coalesces into a new life form when the season is anew. Whether good or bad is only relative, and that the next lifeform would be a intermixed with previous lives even in the plural sense.
3 people die>>>>becomes flowers in garden>>>>>some flowers die>>>>becomes single bird>>>>bird and a cat dies>>>>>becomes one child>>>> wherever life force flows will be it’s next life cycle.
EasternMerchant says
I believe that life is like an ocean of matter which flows through every facet of the universe, it disperses and coalesces into a new life form. Whether good or bad is only relative, and that the next lifeform would be a intermixed with previous lives even in the plural sense.
3 people die>>>>becomes flowers in garden>>>>>some flowers die>>>>becomes single bird>>>>bird and a cat dies>>>>>becomes one child>>>> wherever life force flows will be it’s next life cycle.